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Post  Tonteau on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 8:01 pm

Arshavin was £10 million. The only time Arsenal spend anywhere near £14 million is when it's a forward. They whacked out £8-9 million on Vermaelen, but he's younger than jags and can play on the floor a bit which is how they like them. Arsene has never been one to flash the cash about much, especially not on players like Phil Jagielka, who whilst being an excellent defender, isn't really much of a ball player.
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Post  hairy cataract on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 8:44 pm

Tonteau wrote:Arshavin was £10 million. The only time Arsenal spend anywhere near £14 million is when it's a forward. They whacked out £8-9 million on Vermaelen, but he's younger than jags and can play on the floor a bit which is how they like them. Arsene has never been one to flash the cash about much, especially not on players like Phil Jagielka, who whilst being an excellent defender, isn't really much of a ball player.

Agree with that. It would be very out of character for Wenger to spend top dollar on a particularly English type of defender, unless he's getting huge pressure from above. Or if he now realises he has to change the style a bit to win anything - which he clearly does need to do. He could really do with a Fellaini - someone who can put his foot in and put the shits up the opposition.
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Post  Da Judge on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 9:24 pm

hairy cataract wrote:
Tonteau wrote:Arshavin was £10 million. The only time Arsenal spend anywhere near £14 million is when it's a forward. They whacked out £8-9 million on Vermaelen, but he's younger than jags and can play on the floor a bit which is how they like them. Arsene has never been one to flash the cash about much, especially not on players like Phil Jagielka, who whilst being an excellent defender, isn't really much of a ball player.

Agree with that. It would be very out of character for Wenger to spend top dollar on a particularly English type of defender, unless he's getting huge pressure from above. Or if he now realises he has to change the style a bit to win anything - which he clearly does need to do. He could really do with a Fellaini - someone who can put his foot in and put the shits up the opposition.

Well I did say the day that he (Marouane) was signed he would become our Patrick Vieira. I also think there is a dimension we are overlooking. Wenger himslef is becoming an advocate of a minimum number of home-grown players playing.
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Post  Super on Mon 19 Jul 2010, 7:56 am

ARSENAL are ready to offer £18m to grab Everton defender Phil Jagielka – and leave David Moyes with another summer headache. Despite the £10m signing of Lorient centre-back Laurent Koscielny, Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is eager to bolster his defensive ranks and has made the England international his top target. William Gallas and Mikael Silvestre have both left Arsenal as free agents while veteran defender Sol Campbell still hasn’t decided whether to sign a new 12-month deal, with Newcastle now joining Sunderland in showing interest. Reports at the weekend claim the Gunners have already had a £14m Jagielka bid rejected. But they will return with an improved offer for the 27-year-old and are prepared to splash out £18m to get their man. Wenger’s pursuit of the former Sheffield United star will leave David Moyes with a strong sense of deja vu.
The Everton boss lost key defender Joleon Lescott to Manchester City last summer in a move that infuriated Moyes. Moyes is desperate to keep Jagielka and will want to avoid a repeat of last season’s controversial transfer saga. But a move to one of the Premier League’s top four and a crack at Champions League action could be too much for Jagielka to turn down. Meanwhile, Wenger is convinced Theo Walcott will make England boss Fabio Capello eat humble pie this season. Capello snubbed the Arsenal winger for the England World Cup squad and Wenger was quick to get in contact with the 21-year-old as soon as he was hit with that hammer blow. He is confident Walcott will now show the Italian he got it wrong in discarding him. Wenger said: “I believe he has always shown that when he is in trouble, or not rated as much as he should be, he responds on the pitch. He is working very hard in training at the moment. “Of course I called him when he was not picked and tried to help him focus on the future.” Walcott was a second-half sub in Arsenal’s 4-0 win over Barnet on Saturday with goals from Jay Simpson (2), Andrey Arshavin and Samir Nasri. Wenger gave new signing Laurent Koscielny a starting debut, but he had a few nervy moments against Mark Stimson’s League Two triers.
But Marouane Chamakh did well in a 45 minute run-out.
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Post  Mr_Ben on Mon 19 Jul 2010, 8:10 am

where was that from Super (mail or mirror?)

I think it is slightly different as Lescott wanted to leave doubt Jags does.
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Post  Super on Mon 19 Jul 2010, 8:35 am

Mr_Ben wrote:where was that from Super (mail or mirror?)

I think it is slightly different as Lescott wanted to leave doubt Jags does.

Daily Star.
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Post  Mr_Ben on Mon 19 Jul 2010, 8:37 am

Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:where was that from Super (mail or mirror?)

I think it is slightly different as Lescott wanted to leave doubt Jags does.

Daily Star.

lol!
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Post  Super on Mon 19 Jul 2010, 10:59 am

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2010/07/19/everton-fc-reject-gunners-bid-for-phil-jagielka-100252-26880330/
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Post  yankthetoffee on Mon 19 Jul 2010, 2:48 pm

Super wrote:http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/everton-fc/everton-fc-news/2010/07/19/everton-fc-reject-gunners-bid-for-phil-jagielka-100252-26880330/

Makes you wonder why, if the offer as made 6 weeks ago, and rejected, why mention it now?
A bit like the Lescott saga?
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Post  Armchair on Mon 19 Jul 2010, 8:33 pm

Mr_Ben wrote:where was that from Super (mail or mirror?)

I think it is slightly different as Lescott wanted to leave doubt Jags does.

He would want to move Arsenal.
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Re: 6: Phil Jagielka - "Torres in my Pocket"

Post  SouthernSmugToffee on Sat 24 Jul 2010, 11:49 am

It looks like Arsenal have given up on getting Jags.

Wenger must have finally got the message:

Il n'est pas à vendre
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Re: 6: Phil Jagielka - "Torres in my Pocket"

Post  Blue gazza on Sun 25 Jul 2010, 4:47 pm

SouthernSmugToffee wrote:It looks like Arsenal have given up on getting Jags.

Wenger must have finally got the message:

Il n'est pas à vendre





or does it

Arsenal remain keen to sign Everton's defender Phil Jagielka despite having had a £10m bid turned down.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1297391/Arsenal-want-Everton-defender-Phil-Jagielka-15m.html
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Post  Da Judge on Sun 25 Jul 2010, 7:26 pm

YAKUBLUE wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:It looks like Arsenal have given up on getting Jags.

Wenger must have finally got the message:

Il n'est pas à vendre





or does it

Arsenal remain keen to sign Everton's defender Phil Jagielka despite having had a £10m bid turned down.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1297391/Arsenal-want-Everton-defender-Phil-Jagielka-15m.html


Well jsut as long as the Arsenal board and Wenger are impaled on the Heights of Hypocracy when they bitch and complain about the hounding and pursuit of Fabregas.
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Re: 6: Phil Jagielka - "Torres in my Pocket"

Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Sun 25 Jul 2010, 7:47 pm

UWIST61 wrote:
YAKUBLUE wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:It looks like Arsenal have given up on getting Jags.

Wenger must have finally got the message:

Il n'est pas à vendre





or does it

Arsenal remain keen to sign Everton's defender Phil Jagielka despite having had a £10m bid turned down.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1297391/Arsenal-want-Everton-defender-Phil-Jagielka-15m.html


Well jsut as long as the Arsenal board and Wenger are impaled on the Heights of Hypocracy when they bitch and complain about the hounding and pursuit of Fabregas.
Make it £25M and we'll start listening.
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Post  Da Judge on Sun 25 Jul 2010, 7:54 pm

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
UWIST61 wrote:
YAKUBLUE wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:It looks like Arsenal have given up on getting Jags.

Wenger must have finally got the message:

Il n'est pas à vendre





or does it

Arsenal remain keen to sign Everton's defender Phil Jagielka despite having had a £10m bid turned down.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1297391/Arsenal-want-Everton-defender-Phil-Jagielka-15m.html


Well jsut as long as the Arsenal board and Wenger are impaled on the Heights of Hypocracy when they bitch and complain about the hounding and pursuit of Fabregas.
Make it £25M and we'll start listening.

Nah... in some respects Bluey was right.... we keep this team and we can go places this year. Jags is the dominant defender. If they want someone they can look at Pienaar..... I truly beleive that we will do really well.... I hope that the injury glut has dried up...
because there is no fluke in that when the first XI are fit and on song we are competing with the likes of Manure, Chelski and L'Arse.
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Sun 25 Jul 2010, 9:14 pm

UWIST61 wrote:
Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
UWIST61 wrote:
YAKUBLUE wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:It looks like Arsenal have given up on getting Jags.

Wenger must have finally got the message:

Il n'est pas à vendre





or does it

Arsenal remain keen to sign Everton's defender Phil Jagielka despite having had a £10m bid turned down.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1297391/Arsenal-want-Everton-defender-Phil-Jagielka-15m.html


Well jsut as long as the Arsenal board and Wenger are impaled on the Heights of Hypocracy when they bitch and complain about the hounding and pursuit of Fabregas.
Make it £25M and we'll start listening.

Nah... in some respects Bluey was right.... we keep this team and we can go places this year. Jags is the dominant defender. If they want someone they can look at Pienaar..... I truly beleive that we will do really well.... I hope that the injury glut has dried up...
because there is no fluke in that when the first XI are fit and on song we are competing with the likes of Manure, Chelski and L'Arse.
I'm not saying we should sell him. Just saying that if they truly want to make an offer, don't low ball us with offers of £10M. It just wastes everybody's time.
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Post  Da Judge on Sun 25 Jul 2010, 10:02 pm

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
UWIST61 wrote:
Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
UWIST61 wrote:
YAKUBLUE wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:It looks like Arsenal have given up on getting Jags.

Wenger must have finally got the message:

Il n'est pas à vendre





or does it

Arsenal remain keen to sign Everton's defender Phil Jagielka despite having had a £10m bid turned down.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1297391/Arsenal-want-Everton-defender-Phil-Jagielka-15m.html


Well jsut as long as the Arsenal board and Wenger are impaled on the Heights of Hypocracy when they bitch and complain about the hounding and pursuit of Fabregas.
Make it £25M and we'll start listening.

Nah... in some respects Bluey was right.... we keep this team and we can go places this year. Jags is the dominant defender. If they want someone they can look at Pienaar..... I truly beleive that we will do really well.... I hope that the injury glut has dried up...
because there is no fluke in that when the first XI are fit and on song we are competing with the likes of Manure, Chelski and L'Arse.
I'm not saying we should sell him. Just saying that if they truly want to make an offer, don't low ball us with offers of £10M. It just wastes everybody's time.


Agreed... cheers
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Post  The President on Mon 26 Jul 2010, 8:05 am

Everton's veteran defender Sylvan Distan has urged the Toffees to fend off bids for Phil Jagielka as Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger looks set to up his efforts to land the defender with a £16m bid. (The Daily Star)

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Post  The Griffin on Mon 26 Jul 2010, 1:06 pm

Dodgy knees. Sell him!
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Post  Tonteau on Fri 30 Jul 2010, 3:43 pm

Rumours on toffeeweb and NSNO that he's crocked and wil be out for 6 weeks. No No No
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Fri 30 Jul 2010, 6:38 pm

The President wrote:Everton's veteran defender Sylvan Distan has urged the Toffees to fend off bids for Phil Jagielka as Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger looks set to up his efforts to land the defender with a £16m bid. (The Daily Star)

They need to offer a lot more than that. Especially the Gunners who have almost no English players. They need him more than most teams, hence the value is increased.
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Post  BB on Fri 30 Jul 2010, 6:54 pm

Would you sell for £16 mill?
I'd be rather tempted to play Yobo and take the money to invest in more 'Moyes Gems'.
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Post  Da Judge on Fri 30 Jul 2010, 6:56 pm

BB wrote:Would you sell for £16 mill?
I'd be rather tempted to play Yobo and take the money to invest in more 'Moyes Gems'.

I would prefer getting half the money for Joseph..and keeping Jags... 7 days a week...
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Post  BB on Fri 30 Jul 2010, 7:06 pm

UWIST61 wrote:
BB wrote:Would you sell for £16 mill?
I'd be rather tempted to play Yobo and take the money to invest in more 'Moyes Gems'.

I would prefer getting half the money for Joseph..and keeping Jags... 7 days a week...

I still rate Yobo quite highly, despite a few blunders over the years. I also live in the 'missing Lescott' camp. I'm hoping Billy will come good and prove me wrong, but so far, I'd rather have the Jags Lescott partnership, than the 3 players we invested in with the money. I didn't see the same quality in Jags last season as he showed partnering Lescott, and it can't just be down to the injury.
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Fri 30 Jul 2010, 7:37 pm

UWIST61 wrote:
BB wrote:Would you sell for £16 mill?
I'd be rather tempted to play Yobo and take the money to invest in more 'Moyes Gems'.

I would prefer getting half the money for Joseph..and keeping Jags... 7 days a week...
Agreed. Yobo makes me nervous when he's playing.
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