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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Tue 18 May 2010, 7:17 pm

Bryan wrote:Distin has got Newcastle written all over him. (please!!!)
We can't get rid of all CBs though, unless we are truly going after some new ones.
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Post  The President on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 7:10 am

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has made an inquiry about Everton centre-half Phil Jagielka as he looks to strengthen his defence over the summer.
Full story: Daily Mail

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Post  Mr_Ben on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 7:51 am

I think he will always get attention from bigger clubs albeit i'd be suprised if DM let him go unless:

a) we got a lescott style bid
b) we had a direct replacement in mind
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Re: 6: Phil Jagielka - "Torres in my Pocket"

Post  BB on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 8:37 am

I don't rate Jags quite as highly as many Evertonians though he is jolly decent. He appears to be a nice guy, but as a footballer, he has an up hill battle ahead of him to find form again after his injury. Last season, I thought he wasn't good enough by a long shot and needs to improve. Injuries are a set back, but part of football, and we can't find excuses all the time for lads, when others are on the bench waiting to get played. If you're not playing well, then it's Moyes' job to give another player a shot. The first 11 is no place for players to recuperate. I like the lad though, and if he can get back on top of his game, then he will receive my praise every time.
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Post  hairy cataract on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 9:04 am

I was talking to a Gooner mate of mine and they are desperate for Wenger to sign a centre-back and a goalie. All they've been linked with so far is more tiny midfielders from foreignland. I said, half-jokingly, that Jags was the obvious player for them. I can't see Wenger wanting to pay the dough, but on the other hand the general feeling is that this could be his last season at Arsenal unless he wins something. The fans are sick of playing pretty football and not winning anything, and sick of him not flashing the cash when they clearly have it in the budget.

Jags definitely isn't yet back to his best, but if he does get there he is, IMO, just what Arsenal are lacking. In fact, if I was Wenger, I would sell Fabregas, and give Everton the proceeds - plus the rest of his budget - in exchange for Tim Howard, Jags, Arteta, Fellaini, and Johnny H. Give his team the balls they so clearly lack.

Obviously he won't Very Happy
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 2:22 pm

I'd be gutted if he left us. Besides, Wenger would have to put a ton for him. I really don't think that £25-30M would be unrealistic considering Lescott was (about) £24M.
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Post  Albert on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 2:28 pm

hairy cataract wrote:I was talking to a Gooner mate of mine and they are desperate for Wenger to sign a centre-back and a goalie. All they've been linked with so far is more tiny midfielders from foreignland. I said, half-jokingly, that Jags was the obvious player for them. I can't see Wenger wanting to pay the dough, but on the other hand the general feeling is that this could be his last season at Arsenal unless he wins something. The fans are sick of playing pretty football and not winning anything, and sick of him not flashing the cash when they clearly have it in the budget.

Jags definitely isn't yet back to his best, but if he does get there he is, IMO, just what Arsenal are lacking. In fact, if I was Wenger, I would sell Fabregas, and give Everton the proceeds - plus the rest of his budget - in exchange for Tim Howard, Jags, Arteta, Fellaini, and Johnny H. Give his team the balls they so clearly lack.

Obviously he won't Very Happy

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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 2:53 pm

treblA wrote:
hairy cataract wrote:I was talking to a Gooner mate of mine and they are desperate for Wenger to sign a centre-back and a goalie. All they've been linked with so far is more tiny midfielders from foreignland. I said, half-jokingly, that Jags was the obvious player for them. I can't see Wenger wanting to pay the dough, but on the other hand the general feeling is that this could be his last season at Arsenal unless he wins something. The fans are sick of playing pretty football and not winning anything, and sick of him not flashing the cash when they clearly have it in the budget.

Jags definitely isn't yet back to his best, but if he does get there he is, IMO, just what Arsenal are lacking. In fact, if I was Wenger, I would sell Fabregas, and give Everton the proceeds - plus the rest of his budget - in exchange for Tim Howard, Jags, Arteta, Fellaini, and Johnny H. Give his team the balls they so clearly lack.

Obviously he won't Very Happy

me too
Thankfully! We need a healthy Jags!
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Re: 6: Phil Jagielka - "Torres in my Pocket"

Post  Dixie Land on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 5:09 pm

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
treblA wrote:
hairy cataract wrote:I was talking to a Gooner mate of mine and they are desperate for Wenger to sign a centre-back and a goalie. All they've been linked with so far is more tiny midfielders from foreignland. I said, half-jokingly, that Jags was the obvious player for them. I can't see Wenger wanting to pay the dough, but on the other hand the general feeling is that this could be his last season at Arsenal unless he wins something. The fans are sick of playing pretty football and not winning anything, and sick of him not flashing the cash when they clearly have it in the budget.

Jags definitely isn't yet back to his best, but if he does get there he is, IMO, just what Arsenal are lacking. In fact, if I was Wenger, I would sell Fabregas, and give Everton the proceeds - plus the rest of his budget - in exchange for Tim Howard, Jags, Arteta, Fellaini, and Johnny H. Give his team the balls they so clearly lack.

Obviously he won't Very Happy

me too
Thankfully! We need a healthy Jags!

I agree. Wenger hardly ever spends money and we will ask for over the odds for Jags as we dont want to sell and dont need to sell. No way Wenger will pay even £10 million for him and we would, hopefully, be asking for double that.
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Post  Armchair on Sat 12 Jun 2010, 5:15 pm

The Lescott sale has set the bench mark so Moyes would want c£20m and no one is going to pay that for Jags. Except Man City.
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Post  mindyerKoelMister? on Wed 14 Jul 2010, 5:59 pm

As there's a thread here called 'Jags' in addition to this one, I was amused to see this on EvertonTV.

12/07/2010Phil Jagielka
Jags confident of
continuing good partnership with Phil Jagielka.

so he's twins......
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Post  TD's Powder of Sympathy on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 12:45 am

Jag's turn:

'Arsenal in with £14M bid' rejected by Everton

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/07/17/2030359/everton-turn-down-bid-from-arsenal-for-phil-jagielka-report?

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Post  Super on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 8:49 am

Arsenal have had a £14million bid for Evertonís Phil Jagielka turned down. The England international, 27, has recovered from a serious knee ligament and is seen by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger as the experienced centre-back to steady his defence. But Everton manager David Moyes is not prepared to lose a key man, already aware that he may have a problem in hanging onto midfielder Mikel Arteta given Manchester Cityís efforts to sign him. However, Arsenal are set to test Evertonís resolve by tabling a revised bid of £16m.

Taken from the Sunday Mirror.
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Post  Mr_Ben on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 9:30 am

£16m is very tempting
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Post  TD's Powder of Sympathy on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 10:47 am

Mr_Ben wrote:£16m is very tempting

Not really!

For me Jags, Rodders, Mikel and Timmy are the Fantastic Four. We shouldn't be selling any of these.

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Post  Mr_Ben on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 11:02 am

Toffee Dan wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:£16m is very tempting

Not really!

For me Jags, Rodders, Mikel and Timmy are the Fantastic Four. We shouldn't be selling any of these.

I can see both sides to the argument
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Post  Tonteau on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 1:26 pm

Super wrote:
Arsenal have had a £14million bid for Evertonís Phil Jagielka turned down. The England international, 27, has recovered from a serious knee ligament and is seen by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger as the experienced centre-back to steady his defence. But Everton manager David Moyes is not prepared to lose a key man, already aware that he may have a problem in hanging onto midfielder Mikel Arteta given Manchester Cityís efforts to sign him. However, Arsenal are set to test Evertonís resolve by tabling a revised bid of £16m.

Taken from the Sunday Mirror.

When have Arsenal ever paid £14-16 million for anyone? They just don't throw that sort of wedge about and if they're getting rid of Fabregas, they'll more likely be looking for a replacement for him.
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Post  Blue gazza on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 3:48 pm

Tonteau wrote:
Super wrote:
Arsenal have had a £14million bid for Evertonís Phil Jagielka turned down. The England international, 27, has recovered from a serious knee ligament and is seen by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger as the experienced centre-back to steady his defence. But Everton manager David Moyes is not prepared to lose a key man, already aware that he may have a problem in hanging onto midfielder Mikel Arteta given Manchester Cityís efforts to sign him. However, Arsenal are set to test Evertonís resolve by tabling a revised bid of £16m.

Taken from the Sunday Mirror.

When have Arsenal ever paid £14-16 million for anyone? They just don't throw that sort of wedge about and if they're getting rid of Fabregas, they'll more likely be looking for a replacement for him.

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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 4:20 pm

Toffee Dan wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:£16m is very tempting

Not really!

For me Jags, Rodders, Mikel and Timmy are the Fantastic Four. We shouldn't be selling any of these.
I'd have to agree. Who are we going to replace him with? It's hard to find really good Cbs that are not a minor fortune. They would have to increase the bid by a lot to make it interesting to me.
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Post  Armchair on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 5:43 pm

YAKUBLUE wrote:
Tonteau wrote:
Super wrote:
Arsenal have had a £14million bid for Evertonís Phil Jagielka turned down. The England international, 27, has recovered from a serious knee ligament and is seen by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger as the experienced centre-back to steady his defence. But Everton manager David Moyes is not prepared to lose a key man, already aware that he may have a problem in hanging onto midfielder Mikel Arteta given Manchester Cityís efforts to sign him. However, Arsenal are set to test Evertonís resolve by tabling a revised bid of £16m.

Taken from the Sunday Mirror.

When have Arsenal ever paid £14-16 million for anyone? They just don't throw that sort of wedge about and if they're getting rid of Fabregas, they'll more likely be looking for a replacement for him.

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Reyes was about £16m I think.
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Post  Super on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 5:52 pm

Armchair Evertonian wrote:
YAKUBLUE wrote:
Tonteau wrote:
Super wrote:
Arsenal have had a £14million bid for Evertonís Phil Jagielka turned down. The England international, 27, has recovered from a serious knee ligament and is seen by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger as the experienced centre-back to steady his defence. But Everton manager David Moyes is not prepared to lose a key man, already aware that he may have a problem in hanging onto midfielder Mikel Arteta given Manchester Cityís efforts to sign him. However, Arsenal are set to test Evertonís resolve by tabling a revised bid of £16m.

Taken from the Sunday Mirror.

When have Arsenal ever paid £14-16 million for anyone? They just don't throw that sort of wedge about and if they're getting rid of Fabregas, they'll more likely be looking for a replacement for him.

arshavin

Reyes was about £16m I think.

Think they paid about £13m for Wiltord back in the day.
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Post  Dixie Land on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 6:03 pm

Super wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
YAKUBLUE wrote:
Tonteau wrote:
Super wrote:
Arsenal have had a £14million bid for Evertonís Phil Jagielka turned down. The England international, 27, has recovered from a serious knee ligament and is seen by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger as the experienced centre-back to steady his defence. But Everton manager David Moyes is not prepared to lose a key man, already aware that he may have a problem in hanging onto midfielder Mikel Arteta given Manchester Cityís efforts to sign him. However, Arsenal are set to test Evertonís resolve by tabling a revised bid of £16m.

Taken from the Sunday Mirror.

When have Arsenal ever paid £14-16 million for anyone? They just don't throw that sort of wedge about and if they're getting rid of Fabregas, they'll more likely be looking for a replacement for him.

arshavin

Reyes was about £16m I think.

Think they paid about £13m for Wiltord back in the day.

If they were willing to pay £10 million for Jeffers then I reckon we should ask for £86 billion for Jags. Very Happy
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 7:04 pm

Dixie Land wrote:
Super wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
YAKUBLUE wrote:
Tonteau wrote:
Super wrote:
Arsenal have had a £14million bid for Evertonís Phil Jagielka turned down. The England international, 27, has recovered from a serious knee ligament and is seen by Gunners boss Arsene Wenger as the experienced centre-back to steady his defence. But Everton manager David Moyes is not prepared to lose a key man, already aware that he may have a problem in hanging onto midfielder Mikel Arteta given Manchester Cityís efforts to sign him. However, Arsenal are set to test Evertonís resolve by tabling a revised bid of £16m.

Taken from the Sunday Mirror.

When have Arsenal ever paid £14-16 million for anyone? They just don't throw that sort of wedge about and if they're getting rid of Fabregas, they'll more likely be looking for a replacement for him.

arshavin

Reyes was about £16m I think.

Think they paid about £13m for Wiltord back in the day.

If they were willing to pay £10 million for Jeffers then I reckon we should ask for £86 billion for Jags. Very Happy
Excellent point mate.
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Post  My other LB is a Ferrari on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 7:11 pm

Toffee Dan wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:£16m is very tempting

Not really!

For me Jags, Rodders, Mikel and Timmy are the Fantastic Four. We shouldn't be selling any of these.

Or Jonny 5 or afro
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Post  TD's Powder of Sympathy on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 7:30 pm

My other LB is a Ferrari wrote:
Toffee Dan wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:£16m is very tempting

Not really!

For me Jags, Rodders, Mikel and Timmy are the Fantastic Four. We shouldn't be selling any of these.

Or Jonny 5 or afro

1 Rodders
2 Mikel
3 Timmy
4 Jags

5 Marouane
6 Pienaar
7 Johnny H
8 Bainsey

9 Tim Howard
10 Saha (or other forward)
11 Leon
12 Billy, The Yak and all other forwards
12 Distin/Yobo/Neville
13 anyone else etc.

Not going to comment re Coleman, Gueye etc. - all as yet basically unproven. The likes of all our forwards are relatively replaceable - for the money we should receive, as is Tim Howard - even if all are good.

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