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Post  Armchair on Tue 02 Aug 2011, 8:21 pm

FT. Sack Moyles.
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Post  hairy cataract on Tue 02 Aug 2011, 8:23 pm

Armchair Evertonian wrote:FT. Sack Moyles.

Bastard, you pipped me to the first Sack Moyles of the season.
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Post  Tonteau on Tue 02 Aug 2011, 8:44 pm

Last season we were smashing the shite out of rubbish from australia and preston. But we started poorly. Very, very poorly. Bremen were much better than us, but they're a week or so ahead of us in their training as the bundesliga starts next weekend, I think. It's better to learn something from a beating by a good side, than batter some rubbish and start the season with complacency. Also, Ross barkley was fucking boss. Properly good. And he's 17.
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Post  hairy cataract on Tue 02 Aug 2011, 8:46 pm

Tonteau wrote:Last season we were smashing the shite out of rubbish from australia and preston. But we started poorly. Very, very poorly. Bremen were much better than us, but they're a week or so ahead of us in their training as the bundesliga starts next weekend, I think. It's better to learn something from a beating by a good side, than batter some rubbish and start the season with complacency. Also, Ross barkley was fucking boss. Properly good. And he's 17.

wise words. Okay, so how good was Barkley? Like I said before, I only watched snatches of the game, but he looked big, solid, easy on the ball, confident, good touch, the lot. Was he that good all the way through? Stevie Me good?
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Post  Tonteau on Tue 02 Aug 2011, 11:56 pm

Best thing I can say about Barkley is that he didn't look like an english midfielder. He got the ball with a man on him, little shimmy, some nice footwork and he was away or popping a pass off. Looked spanish, to be honest. Back to the opposition player or facing him straight on, it didn't matter, always wanted the ball. He was very comfortable in possession and great with the pass. Took players on, had a couple of shots. I don't want to get my hopes up, but he looks a real player. Bit like Jack Wilshire but without the whinging and with plenty of muscle.

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Post  hairy cataract on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 8:35 am

Tonteau wrote:Best thing I can say about Barkley is that he didn't look like an english midfielder. He got the ball with a man on him, little shimmy, some nice footwork and he was away or popping a pass off. Looked spanish, to be honest. Back to the opposition player or facing him straight on, it didn't matter, always wanted the ball. He was very comfortable in possession and great with the pass. Took players on, had a couple of shots. I don't want to get my hopes up, but he looks a real player. Bit like Jack Wilshire but without the whinging and with plenty of muscle.

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cheers I really hope Moyes has the balls to put him in the side sooner rather than later if he looks like this in training too. I know Davey has a rep for bringing on the youngsters, but usually it's cos he has no choice cos of injuries. It would be good to see him actually making a decision this time. Shame the rest of the midfield looked so crap last night....
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Post  Cahill the Great on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 11:33 am

hairy cataract wrote:
Tonteau wrote:Best thing I can say about Barkley is that he didn't look like an english midfielder. He got the ball with a man on him, little shimmy, some nice footwork and he was away or popping a pass off. Looked spanish, to be honest. Back to the opposition player or facing him straight on, it didn't matter, always wanted the ball. He was very comfortable in possession and great with the pass. Took players on, had a couple of shots. I don't want to get my hopes up, but he looks a real player. Bit like Jack Wilshire but without the whinging and with plenty of muscle.

The future's blue. cheers
cheers I really hope Moyes has the balls to put him in the side sooner rather than later if he looks like this in training too. I know Davey has a rep for bringing on the youngsters, but usually it's cos he has no choice cos of injuries. It would be good to see him actually making a decision this time. Shame the rest of the midfield looked so crap last night....


Didnt Moyes play Barkley up front with Anichebe and Heitenga in midfield, a position where he is totally useless? I hope this isnt a sign of things to come!
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Post  Tonteau on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 12:02 pm

Cahill the Great wrote:
hairy cataract wrote:
Tonteau wrote:Best thing I can say about Barkley is that he didn't look like an english midfielder. He got the ball with a man on him, little shimmy, some nice footwork and he was away or popping a pass off. Looked spanish, to be honest. Back to the opposition player or facing him straight on, it didn't matter, always wanted the ball. He was very comfortable in possession and great with the pass. Took players on, had a couple of shots. I don't want to get my hopes up, but he looks a real player. Bit like Jack Wilshire but without the whinging and with plenty of muscle.

The future's blue. cheers
cheers I really hope Moyes has the balls to put him in the side sooner rather than later if he looks like this in training too. I know Davey has a rep for bringing on the youngsters, but usually it's cos he has no choice cos of injuries. It would be good to see him actually making a decision this time. Shame the rest of the midfield looked so crap last night....


Didnt Moyes play Barkley up front with Anichebe and Heitenga in midfield, a position where he is totally useless? I hope this isnt a sign of things to come!

No, he was definitely playing in the midfield. Beckford played up front with cahill behind and vic wide left. We then subbed on saha for vic and vellios for beckford.

You make a good point hairy. Most of our 'Brining through youngsters' is enforced. I'm all for protecting young players, but Barkley should be getting some games. It sends a good message to all the youth players.
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Post  mindyerEnvelopeMister? on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 1:05 pm

Barkley would have gotten first team exposure last year but for the leg break. He's got a bit of physical presence, like Rodwell, so can probably step up faster than the lightweights.
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Post  hairy cataract on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 1:21 pm

mindyerho? wrote:Barkley would have gotten first team exposure last year but for the leg break. He's got a bit of physical presence, like Rodwell, so can probably step up faster than the lightweights.

Yes, shouldn't say it but his build and confidence reminded me of a certain player who was once a blue always a blue...... I always thought one of the reasons we lost Rooney so early was cos Moyes didn't build the team around him when he had the chance. Arsenal would have put him in the team and kept him there from the age of 17, we "protected" him for too long.

Course, it could be that Barkley is gash most of the time in training and Moyes knows what he's doing.....
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Post  Mr_Ben on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 3:03 pm

is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?
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Post  Super on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 3:12 pm

Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!
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Post  Armchair on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 4:12 pm

Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!

Who in turn was no match for Danny Cadamarteri.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 4:14 pm

Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!

Who in turn was no match for Danny Cadamarteri.
Who was better than Robbie Wackenshaw!!
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Post  Mr_Ben on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 4:49 pm

Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!

Who in turn was no match for Danny Cadamarteri.

I hope you can see my point then
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Post  Armchair on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 6:12 pm

Mr_Ben wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!

Who in turn was no match for Danny Cadamarteri.

I hope you can see my point then

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Post  Mr_Ben on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 6:14 pm

Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!

Who in turn was no match for Danny Cadamarteri.

I hope you can see my point then

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some kids start off with a good performance and next everyone thinks they are the next big thing. Look at Coleman at times albeit he is okay. Just saying we shouldn't get too excited on one pre season.
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Post  Dixie Land on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 6:18 pm

Mr_Ben wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!

Who in turn was no match for Danny Cadamarteri.

I hope you can see my point then

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some kids start off with a good performance and next everyone thinks they are the next big thing. Look at Coleman at times albeit he is okay. Just saying we shouldn't get too excited on one pre season.

The one thing that I think sets Barkley apart from Branch, Jeffers etc is his strength. I haven't seen a teenager look as if he can outmuscle most players in their 20s and 30s since Rooney.

I'm not saying he is the next Rooney or that he is going to even make it but he does look good.
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Post  Armchair on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 6:25 pm

Mr_Ben wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!

Who in turn was no match for Danny Cadamarteri.

I hope you can see my point then

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some kids start off with a good performance and next everyone thinks they are the next big thing. Look at Coleman at times albeit he is okay. Just saying we shouldn't get too excited on one pre season.

How does this fit in with my policy of categorising young Everton players as either completely hopeless (Anichebe) or the next Pele (Gueye, Barkley), with no ground in between?
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Post  hairy cataract on Wed 03 Aug 2011, 8:31 pm

Dixie Land wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:
Super wrote:
Mr_Ben wrote:is he better than Michael Branch was at the similar age?

Yes, but not as good as Francis Jeffers!

Who in turn was no match for Danny Cadamarteri.

I hope you can see my point then

No scratch Very Happy

some kids start off with a good performance and next everyone thinks they are the next big thing. Look at Coleman at times albeit he is okay. Just saying we shouldn't get too excited on one pre season.

The one thing that I think sets Barkley apart from Branch, Jeffers etc is his strength. I haven't seen a teenager look as if he can outmuscle most players in their 20s and 30s since Rooney.

I'm not saying he is the next Rooney or that he is going to even make it but he does look good.

Fuck it, I'm going to say it. HE'S THE NEXT ROONEY.

The Shite spent 20m on Henderson; this lad pisses all over him. King Kenny my arse - Henderson 20m, Barkley FREE; Carroll 35m, Beckford FREE; Charlie Adam 15m, err Hibbo FREE.

I reckon the Shite have spent over 100m this year and the only player they've got better than we have is Suarez. And he'll be off to Citteh or Chelski at the end of the season.
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