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Post  Doc( Ninetoes )blue on Sun 19 Jul 2015, 12:42 pm

Roberto has said before " everyone has a price " if they come back with 25-30m I'll be surprised if we turn it down...... Pity as would love him to stay but we all know players heads get turned and then their advisers get involved and it's all about the money!!
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Post  Armchair on Sun 19 Jul 2015, 9:04 pm

Slap a £40m price tag on him and tell the Chavs to pony up or fuck off.

Might also be nice if Calamity Stones decides to stay in order to develop his game and iron out some of the errors that can make him a liability.
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Mon 20 Jul 2015, 4:35 am

If he is sold for anything less than £35M I will be mighty pissed off. He's (very) young, already on the verge of the national team and he's English. The last thing there ought to increase his price tag by quite a bit, especially with these new "home grown player" rules.
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Post  SouthernSmugToffee on Mon 20 Jul 2015, 8:37 am

Apparently we made it clear to Chelsea before any bid was made that Stones was not for sale.

So Chelsea have started a dirty tricks campaign to try and turn Stones's head, which looks like is not going to work, with Stones coming out and saying he is happy where he is (unlike Lescott).

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Post  Yankthattoffee on Mon 20 Jul 2015, 9:54 am

SouthernSmugToffee wrote:Apparently we made it clear to Chelsea before any bid was made that Stones was not for sale.

So Chelsea have started a dirty tricks campaign to try and turn Stones's head, which looks like is not going to work, with Stones coming out and saying he is happy where he is (unlike Lescott).

They all say "I'm happy where I am." Standard procedure.
I just hope he realises that he'll be sitting on the bench for at least 12 months.
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Post  Tonteau on Mon 20 Jul 2015, 10:18 am

Yankthattoffee wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:Apparently we made it clear to Chelsea before any bid was made that Stones was not for sale.

So Chelsea have started a dirty tricks campaign to try and turn Stones's head, which looks like is not going to work, with Stones coming out and saying he is happy where he is (unlike Lescott).

They all say "I'm happy where I am." Standard procedure.
I just hope he realises that he'll be sitting on the bench for at least 12 months.

Thing about Stones is that, as great as he is, he still makes mistakes, loses the ball when he shouldn't and plays the odd loose pass out of defence. It can be costly and Mourinho will bench him for that if he ever plays him. Cahill was dropped for a while last season after a few mistakes and they brought in Kurt Zouma to play in his place. What Stones needs is to play on after he makes those mistakes and rectify that, and he's only going to get that at Everton.
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Post  Cahill the Great on Mon 20 Jul 2015, 2:30 pm

Tonteau wrote:
Yankthattoffee wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:Apparently we made it clear to Chelsea before any bid was made that Stones was not for sale.

So Chelsea have started a dirty tricks campaign to try and turn Stones's head, which looks like is not going to work, with Stones coming out and saying he is happy where he is (unlike Lescott).

They all say "I'm happy where I am." Standard procedure.
I just hope he realises that he'll be sitting on the bench for at least 12 months.

Thing about Stones is that, as great as he is, he still makes mistakes, loses the ball when he shouldn't and plays the odd loose pass out of defence. It can be costly and Mourinho will bench him for that if he ever plays him. Cahill was dropped for a while last season after a few mistakes and they brought in Kurt Zouma to play in his place. What Stones needs is to play on after he makes those mistakes and rectify that, and he's only going to get that at Everton.


Unfortunately, that all said, I think anything approaching £27/28m + and he'll be gone. Hope Im wrong.

I would actually keep him above all our other prize assets. Thats how much I rate his potential.
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Post  Blue gazza on Mon 20 Jul 2015, 2:52 pm

£26 million bid due very soon. hope we tell them to shove it

£35 -40 million, i think, as good as he is for us, we would sell
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 5:41 am

Blue gazza wrote:£26 million bid due very soon. †hope we tell them to shove it

£35 -40 million, i think, as good as he is for us, we would sell
Yes, he'd be on the way for that kind of cash. I would laugh at Chelsea if they came in with a mid-20's bid. And here's hoping the board does the same...
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Post  Doc( Ninetoes )blue on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 8:00 am

Read in a few places this morning 34m has been bid.... Guess that's buy buy then Sad
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Post  Hinchcliffe Corner on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 8:07 am

Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:Read in a few places this morning 34m has been bid.... Guess that's buy buy then Sad

Or sell sell.
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Post  Doc( Ninetoes )blue on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 8:11 am

Hinchcliffe Corner wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:Read in a few places this morning 34m has been bid.... Guess that's buy buy then Sad

Or sell sell.
sorry late night


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Post  Lumper on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 8:13 am

Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:Read in a few places this morning 34m has been bid.... Guess that's buy buy then Sad

Everton would be mad to turn their nose up at that sort of money. Although I'd be happy to say no just to get one over on Jose.
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Post  Doc( Ninetoes )blue on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 8:20 am

Lumper wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:Read in a few places this morning 34m has been bid.... Guess that's bye bye then Sad

Everton would be mad to turn their nose up at that sort of money. Although I'd be happy to say no just to get one over on Jose.

Depends on how much is add ons imo
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Post  Cahill the Great on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 9:26 am

Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:
Lumper wrote:
Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:Read in a few places this morning 34m has been bid.... Guess that's bye bye then Sad

Everton would be mad to turn their nose up at that sort of money. Although I'd be happy to say no just to get one over on Jose.

Depends on how much is add ons imo


Id still be disappointed with that. How long ago now did Man U pay £30m for Rio Fernidand - 10, nearly 15 years?

He's worth more than that in todays money if he's going to be a future England captain. He's the player Id least want to sell out of the whole squad!
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Post  Tonteau on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 10:58 am

The biggest worry, as bluegazza pointed out, is that Bobby won't have a fucking clue how to spend the money.
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Post  Cahill the Great on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 11:05 am

Tonteau wrote:The biggest worry, as bluegazza pointed out, is that Bobby won't have a fucking clue how to spend the money.


Yep - that is always a big worry!
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Post  Blue gazza on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 11:53 am

I would hope that we demand all money up front, not appearance based payments etc etc. sadly, can we afford to refuse that sort of money.

I do worry who we would buy tho and what sort of price we will have to pay , other clubs will know we are cash rich,
Did I just say we could be cash rich ???? Very Happy Very Happy

Maybe we could buy both Defender and no 10, And still have enough cash to pay RMs contract off Very Happy
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 12:05 pm

rumour is Moses is part of a swap deal
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Post  Tonteau on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 12:08 pm

Made Foo Gwladys wrote:rumour is Moses is part of a swap deal

FFS. Another fucking winger. Martinez is obsessed.
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Post  Cahill the Great on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 12:43 pm

Made Foo Gwladys wrote:rumour is Moses is part of a swap deal

I dont believe that but sure Chelsea will try to offload their deadwood on us if they can. Wouldnt be surprised if they through Atsu in as well
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Post  Cahill the Great on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 12:44 pm

That all said - is Moses any worse than McGeady, Kone or Pienaar these days? Probably not
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Post  Yankthattoffee on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 12:47 pm

Doc( Ninetoes )blue wrote:Read in a few places this morning 34m has been bid.... Guess that's buy buy then Sad

I wonder if they could negotiate a transfer, then loan back?
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Post  Armchair on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 12:58 pm

Made Foo Gwladys wrote:rumour is Moses is part of a swap deal

The guy who parted the Red Sea? He might be useful in unlocking a few defences next season.
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Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Tue 21 Jul 2015, 1:06 pm

Armchair wrote:
Made Foo Gwladys wrote:rumour is Moses is part of a swap deal

The guy who parted the Red Sea? He might be useful in unlocking a few defences next season.
we'd need a higher authority than that to make Martinez look good
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