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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 7:29 pm

Helenqu wrote:This is a really nice article on Martinez and the way he handles the media:

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2013/12/enjoying-martinez-media/
Thanks for posting that. I really enjoyed it. It also clearly is a reason as to why Martinez is found smiling a lot more than Moyes. Very Happy 
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Post  sefton on Wed 04 Dec 2013, 9:50 pm

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Helenqu wrote:This is a really nice article on Martinez and the way he handles the media:

http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2013/12/enjoying-martinez-media/
Thanks for posting that. I really enjoyed it. It also clearly is a reason as to why Martinez is found smiling a lot more than Moyes. Very Happy 

He will be smiling even more tomorrow,cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers 
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Post  Merseyblue on Sun 08 Dec 2013, 8:50 pm

What odds do you think you'd get on Martinez being a future Barcelona manager?
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Post  Helenqu on Sun 08 Dec 2013, 9:03 pm

Merseyblue wrote:What odds do you think you'd get on Martinez being a future Barcelona manager?  
Odd that I was just telling hubby that's where I thought he would end up in 3/4 years.
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Post  Merseyblue on Sun 08 Dec 2013, 9:59 pm

Helenqu wrote:
Merseyblue wrote:What odds do you think you'd get on Martinez being a future Barcelona manager?  
Odd that I was just telling hubby that's where I thought he would end up in 3/4 years.
Great minds and all Very Happy 
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Post  Sack the Juggler on Thu 12 Dec 2013, 12:15 pm

http://sabotagetimes.com/reportage/everton-martinez-toffee-taka-laughing-at-moyes-shortcomings/

   good piece


Everton: Martinez, Toffee-Taka & Laughing At Moyes' Shortcomings

by Jim Keoghan

11 December 2013

I honestly thought he would be the second coming of Mike Walker, but in reality it hasn't been this much fun being an Evertonian for a long time...

Roberto Martinez! Who knew? When he was appointed back in the summer I was probably not alone amongst Evertonians in feeling more than a little nervous. After all, this was the same man that had taken Wigan down the previous season. The same man whose Wigan sides had been on the wrong end of some serious kickings (9-1 against Spurs being the highlight). The same man who regarded free-flowing attacking football to be the sole point of the game. The same man who regarded a defeat in which the team played ‘quality’ football to be preferable to an ugly win. And the same man who while at Swansea never thought it useful to practise defending against set-pieces.

In essence, he was the anti-Moyes. And that was a worry. Despite his short-comings (and we’re just beginning to see how manifold they are) Moyes had given Evertonians something they had been seeking for decades; namely security. For a long-time many Blues began the season with one aim, to reach mathematical safety. The nineties had done a number on us. Two flirtations with relegations (one of which ventured past flirtation and almost moved into the early stages of a serious relationship) and successive seasons skirting around the lower regions of the league had damaged our fragile psyche. Moyes changed that. With him at the helm safety was virtually guaranteed. It meant that for the first time in a long time, Evertonians could begin the season with other targets in mind, like finishing above the Sh*te, Europa qualification or even a place in the Champions League.

During his first press conference with the club, Roberto (who seemed to be sweating more than a man about to be questioned by the Gestapo) promised to continue the work that Moyes had undertaken and make Champions League qualification a realistic target every season. But although he talked a good game, the picture that went through my mind was not of some future Everton captain holding aloft the European Cup but instead the regrettable and forlorn image of Mike Walker.

Like Roberto, Walker had effectively won himself the manager’s job by stuffing Everton the previous season. And Like Roberto he was an advocate of a certain style of football, one that placed possession and attacking potency as more desirable than digging-in and hitting on the break. What concerned me was would Roberto and Walker be similar in other ways too? Would our new manager also come in and attempt to single-handily destroy this Grand Old Team? Would he make inexplicable managerial decisions or sign players who appeared to be 23 but were in fact actually in their early thirties?

In short, I prepared myself for the worst. I imagined Martinez as Mike Walker mark II but hoped that the sheer quality of players at Everton would at least mitigate against the worst excesses of our new boss.  But I was wrong. Roberto has in fact been a revelation and I can honestly say that being an Evertonian hasn’t been this much fun for a very long time.

Although the Moyes years provided a much needed era of respite for Blues, and included periods where the football was good to watch (most notably the first few months of the last season), for a lot of the time the ‘Moyes Way’ could be a taxing experience. Evertonians are brought up on tales of the School of Science, we’re meant to be a team that plays nice football.  But if the Moyes sides’ were ever imbued with any kind of science, it would be something horribly intractable and difficult to understand, like a sub-branch of Quantum Mechanics.

There’s a great banner that was unfurled at Goodison recently that sums up what’s happened since the summer. It read: ‘The School of Science. Reopened, 6th June 2013″. And that says it all.  Since the appointment of Roberto, the team has rediscovered the beautiful passing game that was once a given at Goodison.

But what’s really surprised me (and I’m sure other Blues), is that Bobby M has combined this with real resilience. He’s made Everton not just a team that can now attack with the best of them but also one that is, if anything, harder to beat than ever before. So far this season, we’ve only lost once and that was away to Man City, a result that is understandable.

His selections and acquisitions have also proven impressive. Aside from the headline arrivals of Lukaku and Deulofeu, his loan of Gareth Barry was an inspired piece of business. The other two might get all the plaudits but Barry has been integral to Everton’s success so far this season, acting as the fulcrum around which the team revolves. And then there’s Ross Barkley. By showing faith in the youngster and giving him several starts this season, Martinez had already proven himself to have skills that Moyes lacked. There is little doubt that had the Scot remained in the manager’s chair then young Ross would now be spending most Saturdays warming the bench instead.

It’s still very early in the season and in a few months this piece could look horribly ill-conceived but for the moment at least, Roberto Martinez and his brand of Toffee-Taka seem to promise a bright future for Everton. Not only is the club sweeping aside lesser teams with ease, we’re taking on the big-boys and meeting them eye-to-eye. And even if we do stumble and the season ends with a whimper not a bang, as fans we’ll always have that night at Old Trafford to look back on and the sight of our former manager trying to work out where it all went wrong.
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Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Fri 13 Dec 2013, 6:52 pm

Thanks for posting that nice little piece.     
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Post  mindyerKoelMister? on Fri 13 Dec 2013, 7:47 pm

Toffee-Taka. I love that....
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Post  Sack the Juggler on Sat 14 Dec 2013, 1:49 am

mindyerho? wrote:Toffee-Taka. I love that....
great phrase isn't it  cheers Very Happy 
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Post  Merseyblue on Sat 14 Dec 2013, 2:12 pm

Good piece and an interesting read  Very Happy 
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Post  Armchair on Sun 15 Dec 2013, 1:15 pm

My main concern with Martinez's appointment was Wigan's poor defensive record, which in the 4 years he was in charge, Bobby was unable to improve. However, following Arsenal's loss at City yesterday, we now have the joint-best defensive record in the PL. Southampton and us have conceded 15, Arse 17, Shite 18. Spuds have only shipped 16 but they have only managed to score 15, compared to our 27.

Obviously the defensive personnel are Moyes' but credit to Martinez for keeping it tight at the back and getting us to score plenty as well.
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Post  Sack the Juggler on Sun 15 Dec 2013, 1:21 pm

Armchair Evertonian wrote:My main concern with Martinez's appointment was Wigan's poor defensive record, which in the 4 years he was in charge, Bobby was unable to improve. However, following Arsenal's loss at City yesterday, we now have the joint-best defensive record in the PL. Southampton and us have conceded 15, Arse 17, Shite 18. Spuds have only shipped 16 but they have only managed to score 15, compared to our 27.

Obviously the defensive personnel are Moyes' but credit to Martinez for keeping it tight at the back and getting us to score plenty as well.
people are comparing it to arsene wengers situation when he inherited the George graham defence and built on it, and I hope that is going to bethe case for us.... but I've still got those niggles in the back of my mind that says Martinez won't replace them with as good a defence when they leave, and that maybe we were lucky to get lukaku on loan instead of Ba, and looking how west brom did with him last year and where they are now without him....
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Post  Yankthattoffee on Sun 15 Dec 2013, 5:28 pm

Sack the Juggler wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:My main concern with Martinez's appointment was Wigan's poor defensive record, which in the 4 years he was in charge, Bobby was unable to improve. However, following Arsenal's loss at City yesterday, we now have the joint-best defensive record in the PL. Southampton and us have conceded 15, Arse 17, Shite 18. Spuds have only shipped 16 but they have only managed to score 15, compared to our 27.

Obviously the defensive personnel are Moyes' but credit to Martinez for keeping it tight at the back and getting us to score plenty as well.
people are comparing it to arsene wengers situation when he inherited the George graham defence and built on it, and I hope that is going to bethe case for us.... but I've still got those niggles in the back of my mind that says Martinez won't replace them with as good a defence when they leave, and that maybe we were lucky to get lukaku on loan instead of Ba, and looking how west brom did with him last year and where they are now without him....
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Post  hairy cataract on Sun 15 Dec 2013, 5:40 pm

Yankthattoffee wrote:
Sack the Juggler wrote:
Armchair Evertonian wrote:My main concern with Martinez's appointment was Wigan's poor defensive record, which in the 4 years he was in charge, Bobby was unable to improve. However, following Arsenal's loss at City yesterday, we now have the joint-best defensive record in the PL. Southampton and us have conceded 15, Arse 17, Shite 18. Spuds have only shipped 16 but they have only managed to score 15, compared to our 27.

Obviously the defensive personnel are Moyes' but credit to Martinez for keeping it tight at the back and getting us to score plenty as well.
people are comparing it to arsene wengers situation when he inherited the George graham defence and built on it, and I hope that is going to bethe case for us.... but I've still got those niggles in the back of my mind that says Martinez won't replace them with as good a defence when they leave, and that maybe we were lucky to get lukaku on loan instead of Ba, and looking how west brom did with him last year and where they are now without him....
Jesus H Christ, enjoy the sunshine boys.
When summer arrives, do we all say, "yeah but it will be winter in a few months."
Bathe brothers and sisters, bathe in the glow of winning.

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Post  Helenqu on Sun 22 Dec 2013, 12:40 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/barcelona-eyeing-roberto-martinez-long-term-2952227

Not content with linking all or best players with moves they are starting on Martinez.
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Post  hairy cataract on Sun 22 Dec 2013, 12:50 pm

Helenqu wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/barcelona-eyeing-roberto-martinez-long-term-2952227

Not content with linking all or best players with moves they are starting on Martinez.

Christmas silly season.

On the other hand, it would be great for us if they are keeping an eye on him, cos we'll keep getting their best young players on loan. They might even give us Messi for a season  Very Happy  If he gives us three fantastic years, wins the PL title and gets us past the group stages in the CL, then I think it's fair to say that Barca, Real, Bayern, Chelsea and every other money club in Europe will be after him. In which case, thanks Bobby, good luck in the future.
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser on Sun 22 Dec 2013, 8:29 pm

Helenqu wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/barcelona-eyeing-roberto-martinez-long-term-2952227

Not content with linking all or best players with moves they are starting on Martinez.

LOL - Daily Mirror alert. 0% accuracy with speculative stories about Everton. I don't know why they still bother.

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Post  Blue gazza on Tue 31 Dec 2013, 4:17 pm

loving this guy  Very Happy 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25560826

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Everton boss Roberto Martinez says he will not be selling Ross Barkley in the January transfer window amid reports of a forthcoming £50m bid for the England midfielder.

Martinez says he will be looking to finish the month with a stronger squad - and that he does not need to sell stars such as Barkley or England left-back Leighton Baines.

When asked about a rumoured £50m transfer of Barkley to Manchester United, Martinez jokes he will not be leaving "on loan".

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Post  KoelJagz on Wed 08 Jan 2014, 7:25 pm

I wonder if Boberto is this intense on the training ground? 8 minutes of highly intensive ranting and raving from Pep at his Munich players in a training camp in Doha.


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Post  Tonteau on Sat 25 Jan 2014, 11:34 am


Brilliant interview, even if it is the daily heil. Moyes was really intense and lived football, that's part of what made him a success here, Martinez, it appears, has the same attitude to work but with more forward thinking attitude. Vamos los azuls!
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Post  KoelJagz on Sat 25 Jan 2014, 1:19 pm

Tonteau wrote:

Brilliant interview, even if it is the daily heil. Moyes was really intense and lived football, that's part of what made him a success here, Martinez, it appears, has the same attitude to work but with more forward thinking attitude. Vamos los azuls!

True. Every interview he has done, you learn a little bit more about the man and his methods.

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Post  The President on Sat 25 Jan 2014, 3:16 pm

Bluejagz wrote:
Tonteau wrote:

Brilliant interview, even if it is the daily heil. Moyes was really intense and lived football, that's part of what made him a success here, Martinez, it appears, has the same attitude to work but with more forward thinking attitude. Vamos los azuls!

True. Every interview he has done, you learn a little bit more about the man and his methods.

Good Interview
Can see him building for the future with us whilst being successful in the present  cheers 
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Post  Merseyblue on Sat 25 Jan 2014, 4:09 pm

The President wrote:
Bluejagz wrote:
Tonteau wrote:

Brilliant interview, even if it is the daily heil. Moyes was really intense and lived football, that's part of what made him a success here, Martinez, it appears, has the same attitude to work but with more forward thinking attitude. Vamos los azuls!

True. Every interview he has done, you learn a little bit more about the man and his methods.

Good Interview
Can see him building for the future with us whilst being successful in the present  cheers 
Which is what a club like ours that hasn't got the budget of those above us has to do. If he can bring some of those promising young talents we seem to have in the 18-22 age bracket through to the first team we could really start to build something special.
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser on Sat 25 Jan 2014, 7:18 pm

Bluejagz wrote:
Tonteau wrote:

Brilliant interview, even if it is the daily heil. Moyes was really intense and lived football, that's part of what made him a success here, Martinez, it appears, has the same attitude to work but with more forward thinking attitude. Vamos los azuls!

True. Every interview he has done, you learn a little bit more about the man and his methods.

Particularly enjoyed the picture of tee-total Roberto with Howard Kendall.  Very Happy 

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