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Post  Armchair on Sun 17 Sep 2017, 7:01 pm

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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Sun 17 Sep 2017, 8:30 pm

I've had some time to reflect upon this game, and while I do feel that ultimately Utd deserved to win, the final score was not a fair representation of the game. We looked pretty decent for the middle half of the game, just lacked creativity and sharpness in the final third. I actually feel a bit more positive after the game than what I did before.

The defence looked a bit better than before, but still need to get better to be Premier League class. The midfield looked a bit better as well, especially when Rooney has more of the ball.

Anyway, a tough loss, but I am looking like this game as a step in the right direction.
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  hairy cataract on Sun 17 Sep 2017, 9:06 pm

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hairy cataract wrote:The problem, in a nutshell, is that we never look like scoring and we always look like conceding.  

Still, as Jose says, he wouldn't want to have the run of fixtures we've had.  

At least Dublin won again
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Yankthattoffee on Sun 17 Sep 2017, 9:39 pm

Disappointed in Lukaku's Adebayor moment.
Big fist punch and cupped ear to us poor feckers who went to OT.
I have to say, over all these years, I've never seen United as a class organization.
Lukaku is clearly at home.
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Post  RhinoJagz on Sun 17 Sep 2017, 9:52 pm

Only bright note is at least we dont have a derby anytime soon.

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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  SouthernSmugToffee on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 9:58 am

KoelJagz wrote:Only bright note is at least we dont have a derby anytime soon.

On an even brighter note, our coming fixtures look easier. When I first saw out first 4 fixtures, I was predicting being bottom with 1 point, so 3rd to bottom with 4 points is a bonus IMO.
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Post  Barry Horne's Equaliser on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 10:03 am

SouthernSmugToffee wrote:
KoelJagz wrote:Only bright note is at least we dont have a derby anytime soon.

On an even brighter note, our coming fixtures look easier. When I first saw out first 4 fixtures, I was predicting being bottom with 1 point, so 3rd to bottom with 4 points is a bonus IMO.

I agree to a point (I had us on three points) but the nature of some of those defeats has been really bad. The Atalanta game does nothing to boost morale or optimism, nor does the lack of a striker. That said, the season really starts now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41302168

Ronald Koeman wrote:"We have played Manchester City, United and Chelsea away, plus Tottenham at home. Four title contenders, with the Europa League in between.

"Now we have four games at home in different competitions and we need to win. If you don't win it is better to stop."

Next four games are crucial. With them all being at home, this is the chance to gain momentum, but the knives will be out for him sharpish if the results are not favourable.

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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  RhinoJagz on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 1:28 pm

Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:
KoelJagz wrote:Only bright note is at least we dont have a derby anytime soon.

On an even brighter note, our coming fixtures look easier. When I first saw out first 4 fixtures, I was predicting being bottom with 1 point, so 3rd to bottom with 4 points is a bonus IMO.

I agree to a point (I had us on three points) but the nature of some of those defeats has been really bad. The Atalanta game does nothing to boost morale or optimism, nor does the lack of a striker. That said, the season really starts now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41302168

Ronald Koeman wrote:"We have played Manchester City, United and Chelsea away, plus Tottenham at home. Four title contenders, with the Europa League in between.

"Now we have four games at home in different competitions and we need to win. If you don't win it is better to stop."

Next four games are crucial. With them all being at home, this is the chance to gain momentum, but the knives will be out for him sharpish if the results are not favourable.

That's the problem. What happens if we go 1-nil down, especially on Saturday? The crowd will get instantly on the players back, which is of course the worst thing you can do with confidence low. Players of course need to show some fight but so does the crowd.

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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  sefton on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 4:47 pm

I'm normally quite a positive person when discussing anything Everton, but? While we are playing seven or eight defensive players and 2 or 3 number tens ,I find it a struggle to see we're we are going to get the goals, I find myself clasping at straws wanting Omar Niassie to be selected on the basis he's a Striker.


I bet Wayne Rooney has a contract which states he has to start every game, his legs have gone along with his passing game,I have yet to be convinced by Sigurdsson ? For me a headless chicken.
Are defence is old and jaded, Baines -Jags-Williams no pace/bad decision making,so a lot for Koeman to do .
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Armchair on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 5:14 pm

Barry Horne's Equaliser wrote:
SouthernSmugToffee wrote:
KoelJagz wrote:Only bright note is at least we dont have a derby anytime soon.

On an even brighter note, our coming fixtures look easier. When I first saw out first 4 fixtures, I was predicting being bottom with 1 point, so 3rd to bottom with 4 points is a bonus IMO.

I agree to a point (I had us on three points) but the nature of some of those defeats has been really bad. The Atalanta game does nothing to boost morale or optimism, nor does the lack of a striker. That said, the season really starts now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41302168

Ronald Koeman wrote:"We have played Manchester City, United and Chelsea away, plus Tottenham at home. Four title contenders, with the Europa League in between.

"Now we have four games at home in different competitions and we need to win. If you don't win it is better to stop."

Next four games are crucial. With them all being at home, this is the chance to gain momentum, but the knives will be out for him sharpish if the results are not favourable.

Is he saying he'll quit if we don't get the results in the upcoming fixtures?
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Made 4 Gwladys on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 5:36 pm

just logged in from Spain ... fucking hell...




sack that Dutch prick FFS...

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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Sack the Juggler on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 6:29 pm

we will win our next game... or maybe the one after that....., or maybe the one after that,

Koeman will turn this around
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  mindyerRhinoBwana? on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 8:43 pm

I'd volunteer to take on the match thread but fly to NYC at kickoff time and not back in civilisation until 2/10.
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Statman on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 8:54 pm

sefton wrote:I'm normally quite a positive person when discussing anything Everton, but? While we are playing seven or eight defensive players and 2 or 3 number tens ,I find it a struggle to see we're we are going to get the goals, I find myself clasping at straws wanting Omar Niassie to be selected on the basis he's a Striker.


I bet Wayne Rooney has a contract which states he has to start every game, his legs have gone along with his passing game,I have yet to be convinced by Sigurdsson ? For me a headless chicken.
Are defence is old and jaded, Baines -Jags-Williams no pace/bad decision making,so a lot for Koeman to do .

His passing was sloppy at times but when it works he looks a class above anything else we have.
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 10:04 pm

Statman wrote:
sefton wrote:I'm normally quite a positive person when discussing anything Everton, but? While we are playing seven or eight defensive players and 2 or 3 number tens ,I find it a struggle to see we're we are going to get the goals, I find myself clasping at straws wanting Omar Niassie to be selected on the basis he's a Striker.


I bet Wayne Rooney has a contract which states he has to start every game, his legs have gone along with his passing game,I have yet to be convinced by Sigurdsson ? For me a headless chicken.
Are defence is old and jaded, Baines -Jags-Williams no pace/bad decision making,so a lot for Koeman to do .

His passing was sloppy at times but when it works he looks a class above anything else we have.  
Agree, he's much more composed on the ball and tend to find the time to make a pass instead of either losing possession or just hoofing the ball away. Yes, he has had some bad passes, but that's part of being a footballer where no one is perfect.
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Statman on Mon 18 Sep 2017, 11:43 pm

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Statman wrote:
sefton wrote:I'm normally quite a positive person when discussing anything Everton, but? While we are playing seven or eight defensive players and 2 or 3 number tens ,I find it a struggle to see we're we are going to get the goals, I find myself clasping at straws wanting Omar Niassie to be selected on the basis he's a Striker.


I bet Wayne Rooney has a contract which states he has to start every game, his legs have gone along with his passing game,I have yet to be convinced by Sigurdsson ? For me a headless chicken.
Are defence is old and jaded, Baines -Jags-Williams no pace/bad decision making,so a lot for Koeman to do .

His passing was sloppy at times but when it works he looks a class above anything else we have.  
Agree, he's much more composed on the ball and tend to find the time to make a pass instead of either losing possession or just hoofing the ball away. Yes, he has had some bad passes, but that's part of being a footballer where no one is perfect.

His pass to Cuco before Cuco crossed back to Rooney that led to him dragging it wide of the post was sublime. It reminded me of what I used to do in my pomp. Very Happy
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Knight of Thorgothshire on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 2:02 am

Statman wrote:
Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Statman wrote:
sefton wrote:I'm normally quite a positive person when discussing anything Everton, but? While we are playing seven or eight defensive players and 2 or 3 number tens ,I find it a struggle to see we're we are going to get the goals, I find myself clasping at straws wanting Omar Niassie to be selected on the basis he's a Striker.


I bet Wayne Rooney has a contract which states he has to start every game, his legs have gone along with his passing game,I have yet to be convinced by Sigurdsson ? For me a headless chicken.
Are defence is old and jaded, Baines -Jags-Williams no pace/bad decision making,so a lot for Koeman to do .

His passing was sloppy at times but when it works he looks a class above anything else we have.  
Agree, he's much more composed on the ball and tend to find the time to make a pass instead of either losing possession or just hoofing the ball away. Yes, he has had some bad passes, but that's part of being a footballer where no one is perfect.

His pass to Cuco before Cuco crossed back to Rooney that led to him dragging it wide of the post was sublime. It reminded me of what I used to do in my pomp. Very Happy  
Dragging the shot wide you mean?
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Re: Manchester United v Everton.

Post  Armchair on Tue 19 Sep 2017, 7:26 am

Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Statman wrote:
Knight of Thorgothshire wrote:
Statman wrote:
sefton wrote:I'm normally quite a positive person when discussing anything Everton, but? While we are playing seven or eight defensive players and 2 or 3 number tens ,I find it a struggle to see we're we are going to get the goals, I find myself clasping at straws wanting Omar Niassie to be selected on the basis he's a Striker.


I bet Wayne Rooney has a contract which states he has to start every game, his legs have gone along with his passing game,I have yet to be convinced by Sigurdsson ? For me a headless chicken.
Are defence is old and jaded, Baines -Jags-Williams no pace/bad decision making,so a lot for Koeman to do .

His passing was sloppy at times but when it works he looks a class above anything else we have.  
Agree, he's much more composed on the ball and tend to find the time to make a pass instead of either losing possession or just hoofing the ball away. Yes, he has had some bad passes, but that's part of being a footballer where no one is perfect.

His pass to Cuco before Cuco crossed back to Rooney that led to him dragging it wide of the post was sublime. It reminded me of what I used to do in my pomp. Very Happy  
Dragging the shot wide you mean?

Drink driving and shagging grannies Very Happy
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